Friday, January 14, 2011

What kind of folding bikes are available in Manila and where can you get them

Since starting this blog, many have asked me where they can buy a Brompton or a folding bike here in Manila.  Unfortunately, Brompton bikes are not sold locally.  Fellow Bromptonauts get their bikes from Singapore (Diginexx), Taiwan (Lane & Trip), Hongkong (Flyingball), the US or the UK.  There are a few others who were able to buy a second-hand Brompton here, but that's very rare.
But Bromptons are not the only folding bikes available out there.  There are various bike brands that produce decent folding bikes.  I will list those that I know are available.

FLAMINGO
The closest to the folding style of a Brompton is the Flamingo bike.  The story goes, a few years ago Brompton licensed a bike manufacturer in Taiwan to produce Bromptons for the asian market.  However, there was some sort of misunderstanding and they had a falling out.  The Taiwanese company, with the technology it learned from Brompton, started producing Merc bikes.  Brompton sued the company, Grace Gallant, and their case is still pending in court. Meanwhile, the Merc brand has resurfaced as Flamingos.
I have friends who own Flamingo bikes and they are beautiful.  They modified the original Brompton design to make it better.  For example, Brompton's regular frame is made of steel. Flamingo uses aluminum.  Also, Flamingo bikes cost a lot less than Bromptons. The dealer of Flamingo bikes can be reached at 09172451625.
Flamingo bikes fold the same way Bromptons fold and are shinier and lighter!

DAHON
Dahon is the biggest manufacturer of folding bikes in the world.  They have the largest selection of models and designs.  Entry level bikes start out at P14,000.00 with the Eco 3, and go as far up as P60,000 with the Speed Pro TT.
This is the Dahon Eco 3.  
This is how most folding bikes are folded.

Dahon bikes are available at:
Recreational Outdoor Exchange
B1 ROX Building, Bonifacio High Street, Taguig
8564639
Tryon
South Ave. cor. JP Rizal Ave., Makati
8954515
Lifecycle
Greenhills Shopping Center
Unit G-Strip, Ortigas ave., San Juan
5842442
484 G. Araneta Ave., QC
09178632905
Or you can go directly to the supplier via Facebook (type: Dahon Ph).
GIANT
Giant Bicycles is the biggest bike manufacturer in the world.  They produce a wide range of bikes, from Mountain Bikes to Road Bikes to Recreational Bikes, and of course, Folding Bikes.  Starting price for a Giant folding bike is P12,000.00.  Like Dahon bikes, they fold at the middle of the top tube making the fold not that compact compared to the Brompton.
This is the Giant Halfway.

Giant folding bikes are available in most bike shops, including R.O.X., Lifecycle, Paulina's, and Tryon.

PEERLESS
Peerless is a folding bike manufacturer based in China.  Like Dahon and Giant, the fold is at middle of the top tube.  Owners say some Peerless bikes are of higher quality and have better components than Dahon bikes. Starting price for a Peerless is P7,000.00 with the Barchetta.
This is the Peerless Libero.  


Peerless bikes are available through its supplier here in the Philippines.  If you're interested, visit the supplier's blog for more details on how to purchase this kind of bike.

STRIDA
Strida bikes have a different kind of fold.  From what I know, it has the fastest fold!  They are slim and light, but the problem with this type of bike is that they do not have a lot of gears. Either single speed or 2 gears. That's too little for me. But you'd be surprised, many Striders pass me during bike commutes. For many of them, the one gear  is enough.
This is the Strida 5.0.  
This is how the Strida bike is folded.  It's slim, but not that compact.

The dealer of Flamingo bikes sometimes stock Strida bikes.  Contact him for more details. Cutting Edge at SM Malls sell Stridas, but they place a high mark-up, so I suggest going straight to the dealer.

There are other folding bikes out there like Bike Friday, and Montague but they are not readily available in the Philippines.  Many Japanese Surplus Stores also sell refurbished folding bikes for as low as P2,000.00. Reputable brands include Jaguar and Bridgestone. 

Still want a Brompton?  Help me convince Brompton to authorize a dealership here in the Philippines.  Write them at Brompton UK.

Happy riding!

206 comments:

  1. Hi, I'm a bike enthusiast too and I love reading this blog entry...

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  2. Thanks, Dodong! Hope it was helpful!

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  3. Thanks for writing this blog!

    I've during the last past days read every single blog entry, and it has been most helpful. Especially this one, because it points out certain brands as well as dealers.

    I wish you could do more posts about foldable el-bikes available in Manila, that's really hard to find info about.

    Thanks!

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  4. Thanks, Manila! I will research on foldable e-bikes for you. Good luck on shopping for a suitable folding bike that fits your lifestyle!

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  5. thanks to your blog and other similar ones, i'm now very interested to be one of those who commutes to and from work using bikes :) i've been doing some research the past few days but i realized that i may not yet be ready to buy those branded, on the expensive side bikes. would you recommend getting a japan surplus as a trial? there are a lot of them near the pier and they cost less than P3,000(!) :)

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  6. Hi, Dwayne! Yeah, most of us start out with Japan Surplus bikes! Good deal na yang mga P3,000!

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  7. hi sir!

    i just bought a Peerless Barchetta for me and my wife last saturday, I'm just thinking, can it be modified to make it a bit lighter to carry, though at the moment my wife can manage to carry it and she can help me load it up on the car. your blog made me hooked and interested in trying out in venturing to buy a foldie. Thanks a lot and hope to hear from you sir!

    More power!

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  8. Hi, Speedo! You can probably change the handlebars to a carbon one, and lose the fenders and rack. That should lighten it a bit. Good luck and welcome to the fold!

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    1. Thanks Sir!

      hope to meet you in person and Brommie of course!

      Godspeed always!!!

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  9. great post. very informative for peeps like me who are planning to go bike commute :)

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  10. tnx sa post na ito :) t'was helpful for me kasi wala akong kaide-idea about sa folding bikes, naging interesado lang ako coz my daughter wants this as a grad gift :)
    God bless you :)

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  11. VERY INTERESTING! I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS SUCH A THING. THANKS.

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  12. my question is.. what is the availability if 16 inch bike tires for folding bikes? are they just as available as the 20 inch ones that are also used in BMX bikes?

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  13. Hi, RuCHAN! Surprisingly, 16" tires are readily available here in Manila. In fact, my local bike shop, Tryon, have them in stock. The Dahon and Strida distributors also sell tires for their bikes so there shouldn't be a problem getting them.

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  14. Hi Sir, got a Gypsy folding bike in a surplus for 2,200 (since we purchase 2 and luckily, identical). Any info regarding this type (pros & cons)? Also, kung may alam po kayong bilihan ng bag para ma travel by air (yung affordable po sana).. thanks po.

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    1. Hi, DianaRuth! I have not encountered a Gypsy folding bike in our group but for 2,200, I think that's a good deal! From the photo I saw on the net, the Gypsy bike looks sturdy. However, I think medyo bulky siya pag-finold.

      A lot of my friends use the large "mickey mouse" palengke bags sold in Divisoria. Kasya mga folding bikes natin at matibay naman. Hope that helps and congrats!

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  15. Thank you sir, I preferred it for being sturdy since I’m planning to use it while traveling (other choices available in the shop - with smaller wheel). I planned it to use in my backpacking escapade (hopefully). I was inspired by reading one of your posts and imagine myself traveling with a folding bike instead hiring tricycle or walking within the town I visited. Sometimes I didn’t “feel” the place.

    Thank you for information regarding the Mickey Mouse palengke bag. I was focus on your B-132 bag actually, but I can’t afford it as of now.

    The folding bike cost P2, 400-P2,300 (nakatawad lang kami ng P200). The location of the shop is along EDSA corner Skyway (below flyover) – direction going Pasay before reaching Evangelista. Para na rin sa mga naghahanap ng mura, kasi sa internet P3k yung pinakamura..

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    1. hi ms diana ruth, wats the name of the shop po?

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  16. ms. dianaruth, may gear po ba yang foldie na nabili niyo?

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  17. ms. camille, wala pong included na gear..

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  18. ms dianaruth, what is the name of the shop po? ur info is a big help. my dad is retired and says he wants a foldable bike. eh mejo wala sa budget yung mga bigatin bike. less than 3k is ok na!

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    1. Ms Rezh, ndi ko po napansin yung name nung shop. pero mag-isa lang po syang surplus shop dun. sa ilalim lang po ng Magallanes flyover papuntang Pasay. Halos corner ng Osmena Blvd at Edsa-Magallanes. sabi po nung nagbebenta dun open po sila up to 7pm. Ok naman po yung bike... na itakbo na namin from Sampaloc Manila to Moa (28.8 km).

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    2. Hi anu po telephone number nila dun sa surplus shop po gusto ko rin magkaron ng folding bike less than 3k sa mga internet pinakamura nila 3k to 3.5k

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  19. very nice and informative blog.Im planning to buy my first folding bike. I wonder whats the best entry level bike can I buy not too expensive at the same time sulit for a newbie like me?

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  20. If with gears, I suggest the Peerless Crescent which is just P7,500.
    If light, compact but single speed, I suggest the Gogo Bike (P9,500).

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  21. Thanks Kris. I'll try to compare each pag may time ako next week. I'm really excited to get my first foldie!

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    1. Congrats in advance! Hope to see you on the road soon!

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  22. Hi, so I'm thinking of buying. I have a super big mountain bike but currently it's not with me and I think I'm gonna have a hard time using it anyway here in Manila, then i came upon your blog! Yay! Hmm. Can you suggest something nice for me? A good one, like Brev I'm a newbie as well but just in case I'll widen the price range a bit upto 12k probably. Thanks so much in advance! :)

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    1. Hi, Nissa!
      You can try the Dahon Metro (P14,000),
      Peerless Junya (P13,900), or
      Giant FD806 (P13,000). :)

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  23. Hi Ms. Kris I too would like to thank you for your useful information. I will be bringing my Xootr Swift with me from Canada to tour around Sequijor & Guimaras islands next February. I am also looking for a Foldie for my riding partner so your recommendations are most helpful. If I might add a word of caution to new riders considering the smaller wheel Bikes - be very careful of street drains, gaps in pavement etc. as they can throw you off the Bike. For that reason I would recommend a 20 inch wheel & tire.

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    1. Hi, Glen! I hope you enjoy Siquijor and Guimaras islands! There are a lot of foldies available for sale in Manila. Happy shopping!

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  24. Hi po, ask ko lang po kung anu marerecommend mo sa akin na foldies, i'm thinking of peerless firebird and junya. I am going to use it for daily transpo from home to work.

    Maraming salamat po Sir Kris!

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    1. Both Firebird and Junya are good choices, Maby! Tamang tama pang daily commute. BTW, how many kms ba ang layo?

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  25. Thanks for reading Sir Kris!

    I am really not good on measurement, hehe! Pero pag sumakay po ako from bahay to work, It would take 30 mins kung hindi masyado matrapik, pero twice a month ko lang po mae-experiece yan, every saturday pa. at higit sa lahat apat na sakay po iyon. Hehe! That is why i decided to use a bike.

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  26. But if you can give me other choices na suitable para sa daily lifestyle like going to work from home, tapos uwi. Tingin ko kasi di masyado makaka pag pahinga bike ko e, Hehe! Every sunday gusto ko din dalhin sa church namin. Basta foldies lang po. Na-inlab talaga ko dito.. Hehe!

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  27. Ay di ko po nailagay kung gano katagal yung normal na byahe, carried away, haha! Mga 1hr to 1 and half hour po yung normal na byahe na may trapik.

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    1. Pwede rin ang Peerless Crescent. 7,500 lang. You can order it directly at Tryon Bike Shop!

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    2. Sir Kris! Ngayon lang po ulit ako naka pasok dito, hehe! Yung Tryon bike shop po , nakausap ko na po jan si Sir Jaime, waiting nalang po ako sa darating na stock na firebird. Yehey!! Thanks po Sir Kris!! God bless!!

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    3. Wow! Congrats, Maby! See you on the road!

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    4. Sir Kris!

      Remember me? Hehe! I just got my bike last week, after a long long long... almost four months of waiting, haaay..

      Thank you Sir Kris for all the advice!

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    5. By the way, Peerless Firebird (Black) here!

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    6. Congrats, Mharvie! Sali ka sa FBP rides!

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    7. Ibang account pala yung naka log in kahapon sa reply ko, hehe!

      Pano po ba sumali?

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    8. Type mo lang Folding Bike Pilipinas o FBP sa facebook. i-add kita dun!

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    9. Nag massage na po ako sa FBP, wala po kasi ako makita na add as friend button. Pero meron pa po isang page ng FBP join group.

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    10. sir ask ko lang kung okay ba yung brand na Mouse? P6500 sya.

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  28. Your blog is so helpful! I'm in a time-pressed dilemma of finding a folding bike for my Husband this Christmas. X_x

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  29. You're welcome, Tin! Good luck Christmas shopping!

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  30. Thank you so much for writing this blog! I've been meaning to buy a folding bike for a while now since I study in UPD and I think biking around is a lot more practical than riding the jeep all the time. I'd just like to ask for a price range for the flamingo bike? My height is five flat so if you could suggest some specs that would be ideal for my height it would be great.

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    1. Hi, Mariah! The last time I asked, a Flamingo bike sells between 25k-30k.

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  31. saw some montague bikes in iron bike shop. crosstown 35k+ and boston 40k+ are they worth it?

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    1. Hi, Brian! Montague bikes are solid full-size folding bikes, if that's your thing. For the Crosstown, I wouldn't pay more than 30k. For the Boston, did you see the single speed or the 8-speed internal hub? Pag-internal hub then 40k is a good deal.

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    2. hi sir. yeah i think the price was too much. i just got my bike recently.. a doppelganger artismo 242.. what can you say about it? thanks

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    3. Doppelganger bikes are great! They're bombproof! Congrats on your purchase!

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    4. thanks sir. where is the best shop to buy for accessories/upgrades for this folding bike? what parts do i have to upgrade? saw a sr suntour swing shock 40mm travel for folding at ironbike @ 5k. are they worth it?

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    5. Hi, Brian! Oooh, I'm not sure on that. Best to ask bike shops that sell these, like Tryon.

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  32. I'm a beginner looking for an affordable folding bike for commuting. Are Japan surplus bikes sturdy and light at the same time? And where is a good place to buy surplus bikes?

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    1. Hi, Daft! Japan surplus bikes very sturdy. This is because most of them are made of steel. The downside of this is that they're not very light. There's this one surplus shop near Evangelista St. in Makati that I've gone to before. The've got decent bikes. I forgot the name but its directly under the Magallanes Interchange. You can't miss it. Good luck bike shopping!

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    2. Thanks for the quick reply! Based on your response, I'm gonna make a guess and say that a Japan surplus is gonna be heavier than 15 kg. Am I right?

      I'm actually looking at the Enda Leo too as another option. The Enda Leo certainly fits my requirement for lightness, but not to sure if the build is sturdy enough since it's made of aluminum. Any insights/thoughts about this?

      And thanks again for your feedback! I really appreciate being able to consult someone who knows a lot about bikes :D

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    3. The Japan surplus bikes would probably be 15 kgs as you stated. I am not familiar with the Enda brand but I know that a lot of Dahon and Tern folding bikes are made of aluminum. They are lighter than steel hence easier to carry when folded.

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  33. Thanks for this great article sir.
    Like Daft Geek i too am planning to use this for LRT + biking. Used to own a full MTB. If i can have my way id buy those doppels for they really look cool and great but would definitely burn a hole in my wallet. :(

    Ive heard about "mouse" brand but could not actually find a good review or info about it. Would you have any info about that brand? Also would it look ok for an old, small, and heavy guy(maybe 200lbs and 5'5" small) riding this bike?

    TY in advanced! :)

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    1. Hi, Israel! Sorry, man, I haven't heard of the mouse brand. Anyway, folding bikes with small wheels can be ridden by all kinds of riders, including you. I have friends who weigh more than you and ride a folding bike. So, go, go, go! Happy Holidays!

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  34. I am interested in going back to cycling as a form of exercise. It's good I stumbled upon your blog. I am seriously considering buying a foldable bike instead of a regular size one.

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  35. Hi Sir Kris! What's the weight of the Peerless Crescent? Also, aside from the weight & bulkiness when folded - what are the things that a newbie should consider when buying his/her first foldie? I'm deciding between going for the Peerless Crescent that you mentioned or just settle with a Jap surplus. Thank you in advance, sir! :)

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    1. Hi, Pauline. The Crescent is around 15 kilos. Medyo mabigat din. Things to consider are upgradeability. With peerless, they use standard road/MTB parts, so there's no problem upgrading if you want to change your derailleaurs. Pag Japan surplus kasi, you're not sure if you can change the parts.

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  36. Also Sir, what folding bike can you recommend if I would also like to use it on off road MTB trails and dirt roads? I understand that they're really not made for it but just incase meron lang po! Thank you! :)

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    1. If you want a folding bike for trails, I suggest you get the Montague Paratrooper or Swissbike. Its a full sized mountain bike that folds. I think Ironbike and some other bike shops sell them. Just ask for the Montague Paratrooper or Swissbike. Good luck with your decision!

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  37. Good day Sir!

    Thank you for the very swift and informative reply.

    I did a little research and the Jetstream P8 really caught my attention especially after reading about a guy who's been using it on trails. But come to think of it, with the cost of the Jetstream and the possibility of it breaking when used on trails here in the Philippines it might not be a very good idea.

    The reason why I'm looking for a 20" foldable bike because I know that I will have a problem with balancing esp on MTBs. So I have made my decision that I will buy the Peerless Crescent first and be comfortable on it by doing a few rounds in UPD or some park. And then, when I'm more confident with crusing, maybe I can get the SwissBike for my trail rides! :)

    Again, thank you sir for the very big help!

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  38. I don't mean to hijack this thread but two things I would like to add. 1- for Pauline, have you considered a bike with a 24 inch wheel? You may not need to upgrade after. Tern makes some very nice 24 inch bikes & I am pretty sure they are very sturdy. 2- Many people have toured on less expensive folding bikes so your worries about paths & trails are probably not warranted. I would however carry a few spares that could possibly go wrong just in case. Besides, unless you are going to the wilderness isn't there like a million bike shops across The Philippines where you can get a replacement part? Travelling Two crossed Africa & John Buno & his girlfriend have toured many parts of The Philippines on Foldies. Learn how to do basic repairs, adjustments & maintenence & go have an amazing adventure.
    http://travellingtwo.com/
    http://johnbunoadventures.com/

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  39. Kris sir, Is there an arranged time & location your group meets for rides or just coffee & chat? The thought of riding in Manila traffic scares the hell out of me. haha I might need some instructions or faster legs! Glen

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    1. Yes, our group (Folding Bike Pilipinas) usually meet for once a week on wednesday nights. We call it W.A.W. (Wednesdays After Work) ride. Most of the time the meeting place is at Bonifacio Global City. Why don't you join our Facebook page? just search Folding Bike Pilipinas. Hope to see you soon!
      By the way, there's a bike ride of the Firefly Brigade this Saturday, January 20. Venue is Greenhills Shopping Center in San Juan at 7am. Route is Greenhiils to China Town!

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  40. Thank you for your kind invitation Kris, I am not in the Philippines right now - still in Canada but I will certainly contact you when I am there later this year. I will send your meet up info to my friend Angelo & possibly he might come visit. Would your group be kind enough to help him find a reasonable priced folder? Even used may be fine if someone could check it over for him. Salamat & Ingat, Glen

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    1. Yes, sure! We have members who can help him with that!

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  41. Hi, i came across your blog as i am looking for a montague paratrooper here in manila. Unfortunately, i'm having difficulty looking for one. Can you recommend suppliers or importers? Thanks!

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    1. Hi, Boj! I know Ironbike in Quezon City sells Montague bikes. Check out their website at www.ironbike.net

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  42. Hi , I just arrived in Makati. I am big fan of Brompton bikes but apparently there is no shop selling them. You describe Flamingo bikes the ones closer to the folding style of Brompton: could you indicate where I can find a shop selling Flamingo bikes?
    thanks for your kind support!

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    1. Hi, Eddy! Flamingo bikes are sold by Tryon bike shop. However, the last time I went there the manager said they have no stock due to the fact that Flamingo is currently redesigning the bike.

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  43. Hi Kris, This item may help keep the Bikes secure. What I like about it is the alarm is hidden & will vibrate your Remote if someone moves your Bike. That might give someone time to get back to where they parked before the cable or chain is cut. I have tried the cheap 3 button alarms that sell for about $5.00 & while they work quite well, they have a habit of killing the batteries even if you dont use the alarm.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-T-one-Bike-Search-Alarm-Undercover-102db-0-120m-/140906697921?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D5742212511561998860%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D121063476108%26

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  44. Beginner in folding bike,,,i want to join folding bike group,,please help me out and thank you for sharing us your bike experienced...appreciated..

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    1. Hi, Lot! Please search for us on facebook. Its Folding Bike Pilipinas. Then you can join our rides! Congrats!

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  45. Hi po! thank you for all the info you have on this blog and it is very helpful.
    However, I'm just a beginner who knows nothing about bike brands and gears.
    I only want a fairly light and not-too-expensive (preferably below P7k?) bike that I can use for commuting/biking in the metro (QC and Manila). Can you please help me find the right one? I'm a female, 5ft 2 inches in height and weighs about 55kg.

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    1. Hi! Peerless Crescent would be great for you. Mga 7,500. Also, the Gogo Bike. Pero mga 9k na yun.

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  46. hi sir Kris, ask ko lang kung alam nyo yung brand na Mouse na folding bike? tumingin kasi ako sa cartimar. P6500 sya. Ok kaya yon?

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    1. Hi, Randy! I have not heard about that brand yet. Sorry.

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  47. Sir Want to join any folding bike group,,any recommendations Sir,,ty

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    1. Hi, Lot! There are many folding bike clubs in the Philippines right now and you can join any of them. I'm with Folding Bike Pilipinas (FBP). Look us up on Facebook and I'll add you if you want to join.

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  48. Hello, Sir Kris. I'm a newbie here. I just got a doppelganger 216 ignite and I'm planning to join bike groups around the metro. I also sent a request to join FBP. =) hoping to hear from you soon. Thanks!

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  50. Hello, Sir Kris! I'm also new here and looking to get a folding bike for casual use. I'm very sorry since I have a lot of questions Please bear with me!~^^
    I've been looking at different brands and models, but I'm simply overwhelmed at all the possibilities, and now I see you can even get surplus bikes at 2-3k lang?? Amazing. But where can I find these Japanese surplus stores?
    I'm also thinking of getting a Strida since it's pretty much oil-free, and because of the fold, it can be rolled most of the time instead of carried. But it's quite expensive. Are there any other brands that have something similar to the kevlar chain? I've also read that Strida knock-offs are okay. Would you know if they're alright? Like do they also have the kevlar chain? Or would the cheapest Peerless or Flamingo be more reliable than a knock-off Strida? Is the cheapest Flamingo even less expensive than the cheapest Strida? Why is it so difficult to find pricing on these things? Haha anyway...
    I've also noticed that the Flamingo and Brompton have extra wheels at the bottom. Are they functional? Like can it be pushed similarly to the Strida? I'm about 5'4 if my height has anything to do with it.
    Lastly, have you heard of the Pacific CarryMe? It's a bit bigger than the A-bike, but about as expensive as a cheap Strida. And I have no idea if I can get it in Manila.. But it seems like a good option for my lifestyle. I'd just like to know if you have any thoughts on it...
    Ahhh that't a lot of questions. Hehe anyway, thank you so much for this post! I really hope to hear from you soon! Thank you!!! *and sorry for the deleted comment. There was a lot I wasn't able to include in the first one...

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    1. Hi, Zelle! Sorry for the late reply. I do not suggest getting Strida knock-offs because they break easily. I would rather you get Peerless or Flamingo. The small wheels of the Flamingo (and the Brompton) are used for rolling the bikes in the folded states. Pacific CarryMe is okay too. I have friends who ride those. Good luck in your purchase (if you still haven't)!

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    2. Thanks so much for your advice! I really appreciate it. It helps my decision a lot. I think I'll start with the Pacific CarryMe since the size is perfect. Maybe in the future, I'll try other brands. There's so many to choose from, it's so difficult to decide. But your blog is very helpful ^^
      One last question, could you recommend any surplus bike stores in the Metro Manila area? I'd also like to try buying one of those.
      Thank you so much for all the help!! XD

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    3. Hi, Zelle! Good luck with your purchase! I hope to see you in one of the CMRs! There are plenty of surplus bike stores. I go to the nearest one to me, which is the Japan surplus store under the Magallanes interchange. If you're coming from Osmeña Hi-way and turn right towards EDSA, the shop will be on your right. You can't miss it. They display their bikes outside the store. Sorry, I forgot the name.

      My friends also get their surplus bikes in Malabon. I'm just not sure where there.

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    4. Ah thanks so much. I guess I'll search around my area as well for some bike stores. Thanks for the recommendations tho. I'm very picky so I want to have a good lot to choose from before actually buying ^^ I've always wanted to try doing a CMR, so yes, one day, you just might! Thanks so much for all the help!!

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  51. Hi Kris! I'm a MB user, but long time facinated by FBs... what are your thoughts at Giant Expressway? Is it a good buy for 18k brand new? Is it comparable/superior to Dahon brand? Thanks in advanced for your inputs...

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    1. Hi, Jet! The Giant Expressway is a solid folding bike, but I don't think it's superior. Its equivalent in the Dahon line could be the Vitesse. 18k? Hmm, baka kaya ibaba sa 16k. Good luck in your purchase!

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  52. sir ano po maganmdang folding bike brand and model maisuggest nyo?ung nt too expensive pero matibay and madami parts na nbibili/medyo aound 190 pounds kc ako kya nkakatakot bumili nung sobra mura bka masira dn agad.im from baguio nga pala kaya medyo uphill and downhill daan dto.pero d ko naman plan iride sya ng trails.

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    1. Hi, Jeremy! I recommend Peerless folding bikes. The Firebird would be okay for you I guess. It uses standard MTB parts so hindi ka mahihirapan mag-replace or upgrade. Good luck!

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  53. ok sir thank you sa pag reply.clueless kc ako sa bikes actually.i have a mtb nman pero gusto ko ng folding para pwde ko isakay sa car and madala khit san.hehe.ung doppelganger brand b e medyo mahirap hanapan ng parts?

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    1. I'm not sure about Doppelganger but I know bikers who ride them and they don't seem to have a problem. Pwede rin yun if you like the design.

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    2. ok po ung entry level na gian folding bikes?un kc and doppel ganger pinagpipilian ko.10-around 16k lng budget ko e.tpos ipapaship ko pa kaya hanap din ako shop na may online shop.

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    3. Giant and Doppelganger are okay, Jeremy. Good luck and see you sa rides!

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  54. Hi, sir Kris. I'm looking for a lightweight, durable, preferably cheap folding bike that I can use to explore Metro Manila. I need to be able to fold it up, put it in a bag, and carry it on my back, e.g. over pedestrian overpasses or into stores. Do you have any recommendations for what kind of bike I should get and where I can find a bag/backpack for it? Thank you.

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    1. Hi, Christian! I recommend Peerless folding bikes. They are very affordable and reliable. They don't fold as compact as the Brompton, but they can be carried. Tryon Bike Shop in Makati sells bike bags that fit most folding bikes. Good luck!

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  55. maraming salamat sa forum na ito. very helpful. looking for folding bike less than 14" na pede isakay sa commuter van yung maliit lng po para di mka istorbo sa fellow commuter van. thanks po

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  56. sir may alam po b kyo online shops nagbebenta folding bike bag?hirap kc maghanap online ng seller.ung pumapayag sana iship ung bag.thank you.

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    1. Hi, Jeremy! You can search Vincita Ph or Vincita Philippines on facebook. They sell transport bags for folding bikes.

      Tryon also sells a bag. Although hindi ako sure kung nag-shi-ship sila. Good luck!

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  57. thank you sa help sir.meron nga sa vincitti and sa tryon and they ship. neways sir nauupgrade b crankset ng folding bike?ung parang magiging mtb na sya para pwde sa mga akyatan?pasensya na noobie question.

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  58. I am always facinated to see people commuting using their bike. Back in U Kyou can always encounter men and women using bicycle going to work. Im glad to hear that we have fellow kababayan who are promoting this mode of transport here in our country. I love to ride my folding bike.

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  59. Any thoughts about SGM folding bikes, sir?

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    1. Hi, Ace! Since I wrote this post 2 years ago, there has been a steady influx of folding bikes of different brands that I haven't kept up. So I don't know about SGM bikes, but my suggestion is to see and test the bike for yourself. If it's sturdy, easy to fold and affordable, go for it!

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  60. Hi Sir Kris! Just wanted to thank you for this post. I am very interested in getting my own folding bike but I don't know where to start. This post and your replies to all the questions have been very helpful. I think I will get a Peerless Crescent. :)

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    1. You are welcome, Catalina. Glad this post helped! Ingat sa pag-bike!

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    2. Hi again, Sir Kris! I spotted some folding bikes in Landmark Makati (ground floor, where the sporting goods are). They have Dahon and Japanese bikes (Kawasaki). Kawasaki is around P8000 and the cheapest Dahon is P21,000 I just thought I'd share with you. :)

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    3. Oh really? Yeah, lots of places are selling folding bikes nowadays. Thanks for the info!

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    4. sir kris good day po. may weight limit po ba mga folding bikes? im planning to buy my first folding bike size 16inches po yung nakita ko steel frame. i'm 5' 9 185 pounds po. kakayanin kaya ako nun? sa mga video streams seems yung mga foreigners na gumagamit lokks much taller and heavier than I am.

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    5. Hi Gideon! I know may weight limit pero it depends on what kind and brand. Pero kung 16 inches yung wheel size, I think kaya ka naman. I've seen heavier friends on similar frames.

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  61. Good Day Sir! :) I'd like to buy a 16inch folding bike, eyeing Dahon Jifo-I really like how it folds, and unfold. :) Would you know any dealer and estimated price? or would you like to recommend something else? :)

    Thanks!

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    1. Hi, Jennei. I saw a pic of the Jifo a few years ago. I agree, ibang klase ang pag-fold. However, I haven't seen one here in the Philippines yet. Dahons are sold everywhere (the easiest place to go to is ROX), but I've never seen a Jifo. Hope makahanap ka.

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  62. hi, do you know about viking folding bikes? thanks

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  63. Hi Kris,

    Your blog is very informative and helpful! I've been wanting a foldable bike that I can carry around from home to work and when traveling. But my budget's only about 2-4k. May I know where I'd be able to find Japanese surplus stores (in Makati or QC)?

    Thanks,
    Wei

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    1. Hi, Wei! I think you can get a decent Japanese Surplus Bike in Manila for 3-4k. Sa Makati, meron isang shop sa ilalim ng Magallanes Interchange. I forgot the name but it is nea Ayala Builders Center in Malibay. Good luck finding it!

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  64. Hi sir, Good day.. Been seeing an fb na Atomic ang brand equipped with disc brakes front and back. OK kaya tong brand na to? I have a dahon eco3 I bought at sg so far Ok naman. Thank u for your inputs

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    1. Hi, Chester! I know of Atomic. I haven't heard anything negative about it naman. So if you've seen how it folds, test rode it and everything's fine, I say go ahead with it! Good luck!

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  65. Hi Kris! Your blog was really helpful. As a newbie my question is, Does brand really matter on buying Folding bikes? I saw a lot of brands and na confuse na ko on what to buy. I saw folding bikes at Toby' s and jb sports with price range of 4-5k. Pero yung brand nila hindi ko pa nabasa dito or sa ibang blog. Hope you'll help me on this. Thanks.

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    1. Hi, Karen! Thanks! It depends on what you intend to do with your folding bike. If only to go to the supermarket or the nearby park, then brand shouldn't be a concern. But if you intend to use the bike to commute to work or for exercise and longer distances, then brand does matter. Dahon, Tern and Peerless are good brands. They use good components and the forge the metal well. So the bike can take the wear and tear, and will last longer. I hope that made sense. Good luck!

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  66. Hi Sir Kris your blog is very informative. I have jaguar folding bike bought it for 2,600 sa Navotas surplus ok nman kaso mabigat and now Im planning to buy sna any inputs on Mars Kingdom Mantis and Storm3? Thanks

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    1. Hi, isty! Solid ang Jaguar, and for 2,600, that's a bargain. Sorry, I have not heard about the Mars Kingdom, but I know someone with a Storm3. Okay naman daw yun. Have you considered Peerless? Maganda components and affordable!

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  67. Hi Sir Kris,
    Thank you for your blog. Very helpful. Quick question, okay ba yun gantong brand or meron pa akong makikita sa same price na mas ok

    http://www.beeconomic.com.ph/deals/shopping/gg-shop-l004/718204463

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    1. Hi, Paulo. Thanks. Sorry, don't know this brand. You're better off buying Japan surplus folding bike than that.

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  68. hello good day sir, newbie po ako pagdating sa bike, gusto ko lang po kasi pang gamit pang pasok sa work.. ganda po ba ito nakita ko sa internet, TIA :)

    http://www.aimbike.com.my/MIT-V8-16-Rear-Triangle-Hinge-Folding-Bike/q?pid=123&doit=order

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    1. Hi, Gernel. That looks like a Flamingo bike, which is based on the Brompton's design. If looks and fold are what you're looking for, then this should be okay. Pero kung tibay ang pag uusapan, baka madaling masira or makalawang yan.

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    1. Hi, Raphael! Thanks. Boy, I must be out of the loop lately, di ko pa naririnig yang viper at hubu. Brand ba yan o model?

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  70. Hi sir, I bought a 2nd hand dahon metro. All stock parts. But thinking of selling it instead in favor of peerless swift brand new. Any feedback sir? Thanks for the informative blog

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    1. Hi, Raphael! I think the Peerless Swift is a good choice!

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  71. Hi Kris, any feedback with anemos folding bike? which would you prefer anemos or peerless firebird? thanks!

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    1. The Anemos Z20 has the built and look of a Peerless Firebird, but the fold of a Brompton, so if you can get the Z20, that would be cool.

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  72. Hello po Sir Kris, beginner here! I was planning to buy one through olx/sulit since my budget is very limited to about 2-4k but then better daw po pala na bumili sa bike shop mismo and I decided to pass by sa magallanes. Pano po ba maalaman kung upgradeable yung parts since muhang lagi niyo po siyang sinusuggest sa mga readers niyo?

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    1. Hi, LGT! Pag internal yung gear hub, mahal at mahirap hanapin yung replacement parts. Pag external or derailleur drivetrain (yung gears common sa road bike at mountain bike) then madali lang makahanap ng replacement at upgradeable parts. Kung derailleur yung drivetrain, madali din mapalitan yung mga shifters. I hope that helps. Good luck sa pagbili ng unang folding bike mo! Punta ka sa 2nd Folding Bike Festival sa June 21 sa Tiendesitas! Daming iba't ibang klaseng folding bikes dun!

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  73. Hi Kris, newbie lang ako sa folding bike nakabili ako ng Aleoca AB2006-PBS12 PIEGHEVOLE Folding Bicycle last month for Php2,500 kasi discounted yung company namin dun pero nung nakita ko yung mga review sa net medyo nadisappoint ako ito yung specs nya...
    Type:Folding Bicycle / Frame:Hi – Ten Steel Painted / Size of Wheel:20” / Components:Alloy Rims and Alloy V-brake Steel & Alloy Handle Bar / Derailleur:Shimano RD-TZ50 index system / Shifter:Shimano RS-35, 6-speed / Net Weight:17kgs / Color: White/Black / Size of Packaging: 805mm*310mm*620mm

    kelangan ko ba madisappoint or panalo na sya sa price and specs na nakuha ko para sa isang foldie na brand new?


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    1. For me, for the price, that's a good deal na. But the ultimate judge should be you. Nasakyan mo na ba? Kumusta ang ride? Okay ba pag-shift? Secured ba yung pag-lock sa mga hinges? Kung okay naman, then I wouldn't worry about it. Ingat sa pag-ride!

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    2. So far sir okay naman sya, mukha naman safe yung mga hinges.. every morning ko ginagamit mga 5-10 km sa lugar namin.. i'm planning to use it kasi every friday sa work mula makati to baclaran terminal since grabe ang trapik sa makati pag friday. ano ba yung pinaka murang foldie bike bag except sa sako? hehe may
      mairerecommend ka ba sir?

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    3. As in lalagyan ng folding bike na nakatupi na? Okay na yung sako bag, sir. :)

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  74. Hi Kris,

    Fantastic post about folding bikes!

    I'm starting to look around for a folding bike for my Q.Ave-Ayala commute/exercise (34 km round trip). I still plan to make practice runs every Sat-Sun for a month or two before tackling the daily commute.

    I'm 5'11" and 280 lbs. So far, I'm really leaning towards a Hummer Folding Trail/MT Bike (hope they have a size large for me):
    https://www.facebook.com/bikesouth/photos/a.316848548465845.1073741867.223785014438866/319004658250234/?type=1

    You did mention that Dahon, Tern and Peerless are good brands for exercise and longer distances, but all their price ranges (20") is currently out of my price range, including upgrades.

    Saw the prices for Montague folding bikes and sad to say, that even though awesome looking and really desirable, still out of my price range.

    Do you know if the 2nd Folding Bike Festival on June 21 in Tiendesitas would have stores that are having sales?

    Any feedback on Hummer (MT) Folding Bikes?

    Thanks for the long read and for any tips that you can throw my way!

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    1. Hi, Benjie. Sorry for the super late reply. The did sell some bikes at the folding bike festival, Dahon and Mars Kingdom. I didn't see Hummer though. I hope you were able to pass by and see for yourself. Again, sorry for not responding before the event.

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  75. Good afternoon po!

    I am a newbie in the world of folding bikes. I would just like to ask you can recommend a shop or an area where I can buy Japan Surplus folding bikes near or within Diliman, Quezon City? I am planning to get a Japan Surplus folding bike as my entry bike and then if everything goes well (including the budget), then I might upgrade to the branded bikes. Thank you in advance for the help and info. :)

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    1. Hi, Maan. Sorry for late reply. I'm not familiar with japan surplus shops in QC but I have a friend based in Malabon who gets the bikes straight from the docks. Just pm me on Facebook and I'll give you his number.

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  76. hi sir! ano po kaya marecommend nyo na bike brand and model for me. im 190lbs and i plan to use the bike pang travel papasok ng office from makati to taguig bale 12km balikan tapos may paakyat and pababa ng buendia flyover. around 15k po budget. thanks po, waiting for your reply :)

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    1. Hi Hecky! By this time I'm sure nakabili ka na ng folding bike. If not, I would suggest to get Peerless brand. They affordable but sturdy and durable.

      All the best,
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  77. Hi sir can you also help me I'm looking for an affordable folding bike with 16" wheels can you also send the number of your friend and what's your FB name I also wanted to join the group of folding bike thanks hope to hear from you soon :-)

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    1. Hi Debbie. Just PM me at Kris Ablan on FB. I will give you my friend's contact details. Also when you get your folding bike, look our group up on FB. We're Folding Bike Pilipinas (FBP). We are also friends with United Folding Bikers (UFB). It doesn't matter what group you join, as long as you ride your bike! :)

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  78. Hi, do you have any feedback on the Mars Kingdom Freedom folding bikes? I'm a newbie so any info you can share would be appreciated =)
    Thanks!

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    1. Hi, Angels3! Mars Kingdom is a local brand which sources its bikes from China--I think from the same manufacturer of Peerless and Giant bikes. I heard they are as sturdy as those global brands.

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  79. is a jaguar worth 6k a good and fair price for a folding bike?

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    1. A few years back, the same Jaguar bike was less than 5k. I guess increase is due to inflation. Try to get it at 5k, then that'll be a good deal.

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  80. Hi Sir Kris Ablan..this blog is amazing.
    Im planning to buy folding bike nextweek and my first option PEERLESS JUNYA:) Are you familiar with ds?
    If yes,San kaya maganda bumili nito?

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    1. Hi, Meybel! Okay na starter folding bike ang Junya. Affordable but sturdy. You can contact the dealer directly at the phone number posted above. Good luck!

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  81. Hi Kris, yan pa rin ba contact number ng dealer ng Flamingo? I'm planning to buy a compact, lightweight & affordable foldie, plan ko kasi mag bike-to-work. Right now I'm looking at Anemos & Flamingo. Another option is Peerless Arc which is really cheap pero mas ok sana kung Brompton-like fold para sana madali isakay sa train or bus, ano po mare-recommend nyo for me? Thanks!

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    1. Yes, yan pa rin yata ang contact number ng Flamingo. Although hindi siya lightweight at madaling makalawang (as shared by some friends with Flamingos). I recommend Peerless. Strong, sturdy and affordable. Yun nga lang, hindi ganun ka-compact yung fold. Good luck with your purchase!

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  82. Ok po ba yung folding bikes with small tires?

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    1. Hi TheConqueror! Oo, okay naman ang folding bikes with small tires. Medyo wobbly sa start, but eventually mag-se-stabilize din.

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  83. Hi I'm just a newbie user of a folding bike, I just bought mine for P4,450 however I want to modify the handle bars, would it be possible to change the handlebars? Thanks!

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    1. It depends on how the handlebar is positioned when you fold the bike. Sometimes kasi the bike's design limits what kind of handlebars you can use. But most of the time naman, you can modify (change/swap) the handlebars.

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  84. Hello Kris, This past few days I had my first Brompton experience. I was at the airport when a man well over 6 feet tall rode up to the entrance & in the doorway to the airport proceeded to fold his bike for his flight. What really surprised me later as I was going through security here was this man going through with his bike as carry on luggage, You just cannot imagine how small Brompton;s become until you see them as carry on. Simply amazing.

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    1. Hi Daytriker! That's one of the reasons why I ride a Brompton. I can take it with me in my travels abroad. I check it in as regular size luggage. Sometimes, some airlines even allow it as carry on. Hope that convinces you to get one. :)

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  85. This is how most folding bikes are folded. Dahon bikes ... foldingbikesadults.blogspot.com

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  87. Hi Sir Kris. Im planning to buy Peerless Crescent. And gusto ko din po sumali sa FBP rides nyo, pwede na po ba yung crescent para maka join din ako sa mga rides nyo?
    Thank you.

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    1. The Peerless Crescent is fine, Krizia. Don't worry about it. We just bike within the Metro. Kayang kaya ng Crescent. Look FBP up in facebook so you can join the group rides. :)

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  88. Hi Sir Kris. Im planning to buy Peerless Crescent. And gusto ko din po sumali sa FBP rides nyo, pwede na po ba yung crescent para maka join din ako sa mga rides nyo?
    Thank you.

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  89. Thank you for the quick reply Sir Kris ☺

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  90. Thank you for the quick reply Sir Kris ☺

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  91. Hi Kris. Where would be the best places to get 16x 1-3/8 tubes in NCR? I was in Quiapo the other day, but had to commiserate myself with Ma Mon Luk, and wasn't even very happy with that. :)

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    1. Inner tubes for the Brompton? I get mine from Tryon bike shop on JP Rizal St., Makati. :)

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  92. Hi sir kris, planning to get peerless firebird. Pede rin ba sya ipangpasyal sa tagaytay from taguig? Btw, thanks d2 sa blog. Nagkaidea ako ng gagamitin papasok sa ofc

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    1. Yes, solid ang Firebird. Thanks and happy riding!

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  93. Hi! I want to buy a gift for 17th birthday of my son.But i dont know which bike should i buy.Comfortable, durable and affordable.Can u pls suggest what bike i should buy for a newbie biker? I will greatly appreciate it.Thanks in advance and Happy New Year.

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  94. Hi! I want to buy a gift for 17th birthday of my son.But i dont know which bike should i buy.Comfortable, durable and affordable.Can u pls suggest what bike i should buy for a newbie biker? I will greatly appreciate it.Thanks in advance and Happy New Year.

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  95. I would recommend finding out what kind of biking interests your son before buying. He may be interested in Mountain Biking, BMX, Road Racing or just commuting back & forth to school. Best to match the purchase to what he will use & within your budget.

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  96. Hi, I want a STRIDA 5.0 type , where can I find a good price (not to expensive).

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  97. Hi, I want a STRIDA 5.0 type , where can I find a good price (not to expensive).

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  98. Hi. I am a small person. I love to bike, but can't seem to find the one that would fit me and be comfortable using. I am looking for something that would take me 100-200km. Can a folding bike take long distances? I used to own specialized xs, but still quite big for me.

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    1. I could travel on my Brompton for up to 100kms comfortably (just make sure you use Brooks saddle). I haven't done 200 kms, but some Brompton users have biked Audax (200kms+) on it. So kaya naman. I suggest you try it out first. If you feel comfortable, go for it.

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    3. Thank you so much for your reply. Your reply and your blog is very helpful. Now, I will go around bike shops and look for my first ever folding bike. Thank you again. Good day. -unknown :)

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  99. Hi....I am an Indian and have been riding an ENDA LEO 16 inches folding bicycle for last 4 years...I got it from a Cycle store in New Delhi.
    Now, I am finding some creaky noise coming from the front wheel and after seeing the front wheel components opened, I foud that the two bearing cones have got worn out badly and needs replacement soon.The axle length is 200 mm and the dia is 10 mm .The cone dia is 15 mm and the dustcap dia is 22 mm.
    I have been looking for these cones or a front wheel hub axle set suitable for ENDA Leo bicycle and it is not available in India. I already contacted Peerless bike company but didn't get any answer till now.
    Will anybody guide me how and wherefrom it is to be procured.

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  100. Aloke, I am not familiar with your specific components but an easy option might be to look for a replacement 16 inch wheel. If your front forks have standard drop outs the 16 inch wheel should be easy to find.

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  101. Yes Sir....I am bending over that decision to puchase a new 16 inches wheel with aluminium rim with 28 holes but can't find a fitting one for my Leo folding bicycle....

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  102. Yes Sir....I am bending over that decision to puchase a new 16 inches wheel with aluminium rim with 28 holes but can't find a fitting one for my Leo folding bicycle....

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  103. I was pinning away for such type of blogs, thanks for posting this for us.

    bicycles

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  105. Hi po boss kris, planning to buy the peerless archer or ascent, both are 6500, ano pong difference nung 2. Im just planning to use it to do my errands and when go to the gym. It is good choice or should i upgrate to peerless swift.

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